Comments on: Immigration Isn’t the Problem http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:04:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Judy http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2267 Judy Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:07 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2267 Most illegal folks I have met pay for their health insurance which is usually not easy for them to afford but they do because most of them come from cultures where receiving charity is 'embarrasing'. There's a level of cultural understanding that prevent many folks from receiving anything for free, even when they can't afford to pay. Also let us not forget that we, as a country, are taking advantage of illegal immigrant labor - which is not well paid and is hard physical work that surely will wear a body down and we're too spoiled to do ourselves. Why should they not have more health care needs than those of us who have never even seen a strawberry field? These immigrants contribute a lot more to our country than we want to recognize - whatever they do use is a smaller % of their contributions. In the end they still leave us a profit. Regarding terrorism in the borders - the word is 'coyote' and human trafficking. Other than that, I understand that in the past most terrorists from abroad have entered this country legally. The best thing we could do is start treating people from other countries the way we want to be treated - we don't need to have military bases, military schools in 226 countries or our corporations controlling the structure, politics or economics of other countries and taking whatever ways the middle class and poor there have to survive away from them. As much as we'd like to think that our interventions in those 226 countries are democratic and generous we are not there to know that and we wont know unless we have close ties to the communities affected. PR is what we do hear and our superior attitudes towards others is what the world knows. How can some talk about immigrant invasion or how immigrants use our recources when our government seems to have a military expansion plan around the globe and our corporations are using the majority of other ocuntries' resources? Unfortuantely most of us have a very narrow view of what really is being done in the name of US citizens abroad. Most illegal folks I have met pay for their health insurance which is usually not easy for them to afford but they do because most of them come from cultures where receiving charity is ‘embarrasing’. There’s a level of cultural understanding that prevent many folks from receiving anything for free, even when they can’t afford to pay.
Also let us not forget that we, as a country, are taking advantage of illegal immigrant labor - which is not well paid and is hard physical work that surely will wear a body down and we’re too spoiled to do ourselves. Why should they not have more health care needs than those of us who have never even seen a strawberry field?
These immigrants contribute a lot more to our country than we want to recognize - whatever they do use is a smaller % of their contributions. In the end they still leave us a profit.
Regarding terrorism in the borders - the word is ‘coyote’ and human trafficking. Other than that, I understand that in the past most terrorists from abroad have entered this country legally.
The best thing we could do is start treating people from other countries the way we want to be treated - we don’t need to have military bases, military schools in 226 countries or our corporations controlling the structure, politics or economics of other countries and taking whatever ways the middle class and poor there have to survive away from them.
As much as we’d like to think that our interventions in those 226 countries are democratic and generous we are not there to know that and we wont know unless we have close ties to the communities affected. PR is what we do hear and our superior attitudes towards others is what the world knows. How can some talk about immigrant invasion or how immigrants use our recources when our government seems to have a military expansion plan around the globe and our corporations are using the majority of other ocuntries’ resources? Unfortuantely most of us have a very narrow view of what really is being done in the name of US citizens abroad.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2208 Catron Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:15:53 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2208 There are certainly legitimate concerns over which reasonable people can differ. I just get tired of health care being used to dress up a nativist agenda. There are certainly legitimate concerns over which reasonable people can differ. I just get tired of health care being used to dress up a nativist agenda.

]]> By: Debbie http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2199 Debbie Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:49:02 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/08/immigration-isn%e2%80%99t-the-problem/#comment-2199 We live in a small town, small town hospital. We have a small community of illegal immigrants. My hubby says that these illegals almost ALWAYS pay their hospital bills. I hear from many readers at Right Truth who have a different story from their own communities. Different communities, different situations. I look for the immigration bill to be back in the next few weeks. I'm not against immigration or immigrants, no matter what country they come from. My main concern is terrorism. I want the borders secure to keep terrorists out. It's impossible to know who is entering the country the way things are now. We live in a small town, small town hospital. We have a small community of illegal immigrants. My hubby says that these illegals almost ALWAYS pay their hospital bills. I hear from many readers at Right Truth who have a different story from their own communities. Different communities, different situations.

I look for the immigration bill to be back in the next few weeks. I’m not against immigration or immigrants, no matter what country they come from.

My main concern is terrorism. I want the borders secure to keep terrorists out. It’s impossible to know who is entering the country the way things are now.

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