Comments on: A Vote for Ron Paul is a Vote for Hillarycare http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:31:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Rick http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-6214 Rick Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:20:21 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-6214 You always know when someone is full of it when they start with name calling and labels and are weak on facts. Ross Perot was right. America has been sold out and jobs have left by the millions. If you want to blame anyone for electing Hillary put it right on the shoulders of the worst President in American History. George W. Bush. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is a moot point if he can't secure our borders and sovreignty at home. You always know when someone is full of it when they start with name calling and labels and are weak on facts. Ross Perot was right. America has been sold out and jobs have left by the millions.
If you want to blame anyone for electing Hillary put it right on the shoulders of the worst President in American History. George W. Bush.
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is a moot point if he can’t secure our borders and sovreignty at home.

]]> By: Trisha http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5629 Trisha Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:10:04 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5629 Ron Paul is the only ONE of the candidates(and probably most of those in government positions) that is FOR the people and NOT the government(that is why the globalist owned media is smearing him any way they can and blacking him out most of the time).Ron Paul unlike the other candidates is NOT a member of the CFR=NWO=more slvery and control from the government of the people,stealing our money through taxes/IRS and taking our personal liberties away under the scare tactic of "terrorism" and smokescreen of "security".Only time we should be at war is to DEFEND our soil here at home.If the military surrounded the borders of the USA then it would be pretty hard,if not impossible to infiltrate the United States.But the NWO elite know that if the military is spread thinly away from home then they can implement more restrictions on american liberties one by one unless we have a noose around our neck when they kick the chair out from underneath us.And the ones that are left will be herded like sheep to the slaughter until their is no more left to resist their NWO which is equal to Hitler supremacists. The welfare state(americans taxes being stolen from us and being distributed to support illegal aliens bills when we can barely support ourselves and our families) and war is breaking the economy down so badly that we will be forced to submit to the NWO just to survive. Ron Paul is a very intelligent patriot(with integrity) that CAN be trusted based on his non hypocritical(non flip floppy)past in the political arena.He has also written books in regards to the economy and follows after some world renown economic leaders who knew what they were talking about. Ron Paul is the only one running who actually speaks truth without hypocrisy(look at his historical voting record and speeches-he has always been for the under dog and poor/middle class and NOT big business/government who steals from us. I don't want another 4-8 years of Bush type individual running this dying country.What we need is an honest patriot like Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the only ONE of the candidates(and probably most of those in government positions) that is FOR the people and NOT the government(that is why the globalist owned media is smearing him any way they can and blacking him out most of the time).Ron Paul unlike the other candidates is NOT a member of the CFR=NWO=more slvery and control from the government of the people,stealing our money through taxes/IRS and taking our personal liberties away under the scare tactic of “terrorism” and smokescreen of “security”.Only time we should be at war is to DEFEND our soil here at home.If the military surrounded the borders of the USA then it would be pretty hard,if not impossible to infiltrate the United States.But the NWO elite know that if the military is spread thinly away from home then they can implement more restrictions on american liberties one by one unless we have a noose around our neck when they kick the chair out from underneath us.And the ones that are left will be herded like sheep to the slaughter until their is no more left to resist their NWO which is equal to Hitler supremacists.

The welfare state(americans taxes being stolen from us and being distributed to support illegal aliens bills when we can barely support ourselves and our families) and war is breaking the economy down so badly that
we will be forced to submit to the NWO just to survive.

Ron Paul is a very intelligent patriot(with integrity) that CAN be trusted based on his non hypocritical(non flip floppy)past in the political arena.He has also written books in regards to the economy and follows after some world renown economic leaders who knew what they were talking about.

Ron Paul is the only one running who actually speaks truth without hypocrisy(look at his historical voting record and speeches-he has always been for the under dog and poor/middle class and NOT big business/government who steals from us.

I don’t want another 4-8 years of Bush type individual running this dying country.What we need is an honest patriot like Ron Paul.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5509 Jeff Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:21:51 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5509 You guys are all insane. I would suggest looking at the voting record of the candidates and choosing which is closest to your own beliefs. Your reasons for bashing Ron Paul aren't very good. If don't like his record or message then don't vote for him. He is not Hillary Clinton; a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul. I really wish you guys would vote for someone you believed in instead of picking the closest thing with the most money. You guys are all insane. I would suggest looking at the voting record of the candidates and choosing which is closest to your own beliefs. Your reasons for bashing Ron Paul aren’t very good. If don’t like his record or message then don’t vote for him. He is not Hillary Clinton; a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul. I really wish you guys would vote for someone you believed in instead of picking the closest thing with the most money.

]]> By: Matt http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5395 Matt Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:21:24 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5395 So a vote for it does not count as supporting it? Who knew? Although, if he cared for the victims of 9/11 so much, a vote to invade Saudi Arabia would have been more effective in terms of retribution, given the nationalities of the perpetrators of the act, wouldn't you say? If you think Iraq was a better target, what does that say about your character? So a vote for it does not count as supporting it? Who knew?

Although, if he cared for the victims of 9/11 so much, a vote to invade Saudi Arabia would have been more effective in terms of retribution, given the nationalities of the perpetrators of the act, wouldn’t you say? If you think Iraq was a better target, what does that say about your character?

]]> By: Eric Dondero http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5388 Eric Dondero Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:34:37 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5388 Matt, Ron Paul did not actually support Military intervention in Afghanistan. I was serving as his Senior Political Aide at the time. Myself and another Senior Staffer had to literally threaten to resign to get him to vote for the War in Afghanistan. He dithered til the very last possible moment. The only thing that pushed him over the edge, was the "other Senior Staffer" telling him straight out that he would absolutely lose Victoria, and have no shot at reelection if he would not vote for the War. Why the major media has not covered this incident is beyond me. Although, the NY Times did mention it in passing in a feature story about him last month. Still, it says an awful lot about Ron Paul's character or lack thereof. He cared very little, if at all for the victims of 9/11. Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide US Congressman Ron Paul, R-TX 1997-2003 Matt,

Ron Paul did not actually support Military intervention in Afghanistan. I was serving as his Senior Political Aide at the time. Myself and another Senior Staffer had to literally threaten to resign to get him to vote for the War in Afghanistan. He dithered til the very last possible moment.

The only thing that pushed him over the edge, was the “other Senior Staffer” telling him straight out that he would absolutely lose Victoria, and have no shot at reelection if he would not vote for the War.

Why the major media has not covered this incident is beyond me. Although, the NY Times did mention it in passing in a feature story about him last month.

Still, it says an awful lot about Ron Paul’s character or lack thereof. He cared very little, if at all for the victims of 9/11.

Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul, R-TX
1997-2003

]]> By: Eric Dondero http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5387 Eric Dondero Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:31:37 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5387 David, your article is not up on the site with your photo. Looks great! www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com David, your article is not up on the site with your photo. Looks great!

http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com

]]> By: Matt http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5364 Matt Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:32:17 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5364 Those of you who think that the Republicans are going to hold the line on whatever term you use for single payer healthcare are fooling yourselves. When big business comes calling looking to dump its healthcare obligations, they'll find willing ears, just as a Republican Congress and a Republican Pres. were more than willing to enact the largest expansion of entitlement programs since LBJ. You can pretend that this isn't the case with scare tactics, but any fool knows that scare tactics is all it is. As for the "war on Islamo-Fascism", given that Paul supported going to Afghanistan, I doubt he is "soft" on it. You need to check the polls of Republicans, and the military, on Iraq. Given the lack of any indication of competence in running the Iraq campaign from anyone but McCain, Paul's position of pulling out and concentrating on actual threats with clearly defined goals is likely quite appealing to the Republican party voters. Those of you who think that the Republicans are going to hold the line on whatever term you use for single payer healthcare are fooling yourselves. When big business comes calling looking to dump its healthcare obligations, they’ll find willing ears, just as a Republican Congress and a Republican Pres. were more than willing to enact the largest expansion of entitlement programs since LBJ. You can pretend that this isn’t the case with scare tactics, but any fool knows that scare tactics is all it is.

As for the “war on Islamo-Fascism”, given that Paul supported going to Afghanistan, I doubt he is “soft” on it. You need to check the polls of Republicans, and the military, on Iraq. Given the lack of any indication of competence in running the Iraq campaign from anyone but McCain, Paul’s position of pulling out and concentrating on actual threats with clearly defined goals is likely quite appealing to the Republican party voters.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5343 Catron Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:14:21 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5343 Eric, I'd be delighted for you to reprint the post (and I'll e-mail a photo). Eric, I’d be delighted for you to reprint the post (and I’ll e-mail a photo).

]]> By: Eric Dondero http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5342 Eric Dondero Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:16:00 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5342 Mike, And just where do you think those of us who support the War on Islamo-Fascism would go in such a scenario: Paul winning the GOP nomination. I would never, ever, not in a million years, vote for someone Republican or Democrat who is soft on Islamo-Fascism. And I dare say 60 to 70% of the entire Republican Party, not too mention 95% of all Military Voters, feel the same way. If by some huge accident Ron Paul were to win the nomination, you'd see a massive 3rd party effort develop among those of us who support our Troops, the Military and our continued efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. We'd probably draft a Military hero like Tommy Franks or Norman Schwarzkopf for President. And against two anti-War fanatics - Hillary Clinton and Ron Paul - our side would win hands down. Mike,

And just where do you think those of us who support the War on Islamo-Fascism would go in such a scenario: Paul winning the GOP nomination.

I would never, ever, not in a million years, vote for someone Republican or Democrat who is soft on Islamo-Fascism. And I dare say 60 to 70% of the entire Republican Party, not too mention 95% of all Military Voters, feel the same way.

If by some huge accident Ron Paul were to win the nomination, you’d see a massive 3rd party effort develop among those of us who support our Troops, the Military and our continued efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We’d probably draft a Military hero like Tommy Franks or Norman Schwarzkopf for President. And against two anti-War fanatics - Hillary Clinton and Ron Paul - our side would win hands down.

]]> By: Eric Dondero http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5341 Eric Dondero Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:10:59 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/08/11/a-vote-for-ron-paul-is-a-vote-for-hillarycare/#comment-5341 David, that was a most excellent editorial. It hasn't occured to all these Ron Paul Cultists yet, but if and when they vote for a 3rd party in 2008, presumably Ron Paul as a Libertarian, or lesser-known LPers like Steve Kubby or George Phillies, they will be voting for Hillary Clinton, and thusly, implementation of complete Socialized Health Care for the United States. What could be more anti-libertarian? David, wonderful editorial. Permission to reprint over at www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com? And dognabbit! How about a photo of yourself that I could include with the editorial? David, that was a most excellent editorial.

It hasn’t occured to all these Ron Paul Cultists yet, but if and when they vote for a 3rd party in 2008, presumably Ron Paul as a Libertarian, or lesser-known LPers like Steve Kubby or George Phillies, they will be voting for Hillary Clinton, and thusly, implementation of complete Socialized Health Care for the United States.

What could be more anti-libertarian?

David, wonderful editorial. Permission to reprint over at http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com? And dognabbit! How about a photo of yourself that I could include with the editorial?

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