Comments on: NHS TURNS A DEAF EAR ON THE DEAF http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:33:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14780 Catron Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:27:51 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14780 Backatcha, Marc. I'm looking forward to dragging my knuckles through another year. Backatcha, Marc. I’m looking forward to dragging my knuckles through another year.

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14763 Marc Brown Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:40:10 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14763 Here's wishing you a happy - and more enlightened - New Year. Here’s wishing you a happy - and more enlightened - New Year.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14645 Catron Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:16:45 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14645 “most people in the UK do get what they need” Perhaps you should look up the definition for “universal.” Your assertion that your system serves “most people” is an admission that it isn’t universal. When one considers that confession along with what everyone already knows about the notoriously poor quality provided by the NHS, that’s a pretty damning indictment. So, again, why should we in the U.S. emulate the pig’s breakfast that is the NHS? “most people in the UK do get what they need”

Perhaps you should look up the definition for “universal.” Your assertion that your system serves “most people” is an admission that it isn’t universal.

When one considers that confession along with what everyone already knows about the notoriously poor quality provided by the NHS, that’s a pretty damning indictment.

So, again, why should we in the U.S. emulate the pig’s breakfast that is the NHS?

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14641 Marc Brown Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:43:31 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14641 Sorry David, most people in the UK do get what they need. In this case, the only recourse for most Americans is to pay themselves, for as you well know hearing aids are not included in federal mandate and high quality Medicaid provision is patchy and hard to obtain. Once again, you've picked on an example that shows America in a worse light. Sorry David, most people in the UK do get what they need. In this case, the only recourse for most Americans is to pay themselves, for as you well know hearing aids are not included in federal mandate and high quality Medicaid provision is patchy and hard to obtain. Once again, you’ve picked on an example that shows America in a worse light.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14635 Catron Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:16:18 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14635 "How you equate no provision with universal provision is beyond me ..." Marc, your "universal provision" is a meaningless illusion if hearing aid patients are left for dead on some Purgatorial waiting list. And what's the point of government-run health care if your countrymen must go to the private market to get the device they need? “How you equate no provision with universal provision is beyond me …”

Marc, your “universal provision” is a meaningless illusion if hearing aid patients are left for dead on some Purgatorial waiting list.

And what’s the point of government-run health care if your countrymen must go to the private market to get the device they need?

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14630 Marc Brown Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14630 I hope for your employer's sake your math is better at work - how you equate no provision with universal provision is beyond me. Yes, NHS provision for adults could be much better in some UK regions but it is improving - and of course those with cash can buy any hearing aid they want at once. Deaf people have long been underserved in many countries - I see that in the US it is only recently that some state provision has been made - against the usual opposition - for hearing services for children. I hope for your employer’s sake your math is better at work - how you equate no provision with universal provision is beyond me. Yes, NHS provision for adults could be much better in some UK regions but it is improving - and of course those with cash can buy any hearing aid they want at once. Deaf people have long been underserved in many countries - I see that in the US it is only recently that some state provision has been made - against the usual opposition - for hearing services for children.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14621 Catron Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:25:15 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14621 So, according to your "facts," both systems are equally remiss in their treatment of these patients. Where does that leave your contention that government-run health care is superior to our model? Also, "poor Americans" are covered by Medicaid (not Medicare), which does cover hearing aids in most cases. And Medicaid patients, unlike their English counterparts, aren't forced to languish on waiting lists. So, according to your “facts,” both systems are equally remiss in their treatment of these patients. Where does that leave your contention that government-run health care is superior to our model?

Also, “poor Americans” are covered by Medicaid (not Medicare), which does cover hearing aids in most cases. And Medicaid patients, unlike their English counterparts, aren’t forced to languish on waiting lists.

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14619 Marc Brown Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:12:04 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/12/30/nhs-turns-a-deaf-ear-on-the-deaf/#comment-14619 I wonder, David, how your feet are? It's just that you shoot them yourself so often... In the US, most health plans do not cover hearing aids, and that includes Medicare. Digital hearing aids cost thousands of dollars - which means many poor Americans go without. I wonder, David, how your feet are? It’s just that you shoot them yourself so often… In the US, most health plans do not cover hearing aids, and that includes Medicare. Digital hearing aids cost thousands of dollars - which means many poor Americans go without.

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