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	<title>Comments on: ER WAIT TIMES INCREASING: DUH! NO KIDDING?</title>
	<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/01/16/er-wait-times-increasing-duh-no-kidding/</link>
	<description>Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marc Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/01/16/er-wait-times-increasing-duh-no-kidding/#comment-18343</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with the baby Drmatt. I've challenged David to come up with health insurance costs for a self-employed person (featured in a case study) under his reforms but so far there has been a deafening silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with the baby Drmatt. I&#8217;ve challenged David to come up with health insurance costs for a self-employed person (featured in a case study) under his reforms but so far there has been a deafening silence.</p>
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		<title>By: drmatt</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/01/16/er-wait-times-increasing-duh-no-kidding/#comment-18267</link>
		<dc:creator>drmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so niave sometime, do you really think the insurance companies will lower prices for any reason, the market has shown that it can absorb the current price structure, you should also wait outside the gas station for gas prices to come down (HINT; pack a lunch).
Have you read 676? In this bill, medicare for all will not tell the hospitals what services they will provide, just the services they will pay for, if people, private insurance or anybody else wants more, they can pay for it.
By the Way, EMTALA was a response to the growing number of uninsured showing up at the ER, that is right a response to the failings of the "for profit" health system.
The top reasons that people are frequenting the ER  1 actual emergency, 2 no health insurance and the er doesnt ask for money up front like the private offices  3 people have to wait three weeks to see thier pcp because he/she is booked out in order to try to recoup the poor "health Ins" reimbursements by keeping a very full schedule
hmmmmmmm, 2 out of 3 are a direct result of the current insurance structure

OH by the way, my love and I are going for induction tonight, so I probably wont be back to annoy you for week or so, thanks for the good thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so niave sometime, do you really think the insurance companies will lower prices for any reason, the market has shown that it can absorb the current price structure, you should also wait outside the gas station for gas prices to come down (HINT; pack a lunch).<br />
Have you read 676? In this bill, medicare for all will not tell the hospitals what services they will provide, just the services they will pay for, if people, private insurance or anybody else wants more, they can pay for it.<br />
By the Way, EMTALA was a response to the growing number of uninsured showing up at the ER, that is right a response to the failings of the &#8220;for profit&#8221; health system.<br />
The top reasons that people are frequenting the ER  1 actual emergency, 2 no health insurance and the er doesnt ask for money up front like the private offices  3 people have to wait three weeks to see thier pcp because he/she is booked out in order to try to recoup the poor &#8220;health Ins&#8221; reimbursements by keeping a very full schedule<br />
hmmmmmmm, 2 out of 3 are a direct result of the current insurance structure</p>
<p>OH by the way, my love and I are going for induction tonight, so I probably wont be back to annoy you for week or so, thanks for the good thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/01/16/er-wait-times-increasing-duh-no-kidding/#comment-18072</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/01/16/er-wait-times-increasing-duh-no-kidding/#comment-18072</guid>
		<description>In the law of unintended consequences, many hospitals are now closing their ER departments or starting speciality hospitals without ERs. 

This just goes to show that we can no longer tinker with this system--that we have to re-think the entire enterprise.  Which is what we are doing at CodeBlueNow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the law of unintended consequences, many hospitals are now closing their ER departments or starting speciality hospitals without ERs. </p>
<p>This just goes to show that we can no longer tinker with this system&#8211;that we have to re-think the entire enterprise.  Which is what we are doing at CodeBlueNow!</p>
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