Comments on: MCCAIN, VACCINES & THE ANTI-SCIENCE MEME http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:02:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: va doc http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-59426 va doc Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:19:48 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-59426 a lot of us "progressive" Dems actually did think of John Edwards as a blood sucking lawyer who capitalized on junk science. Thats why it was good to see him drop out. The problem w/ McCain's comments is that they pertain to an active area of public health where we are trying to get parents over an unfounded fear of vaccines. and he is just making it harder. Edwards is indeed an idiot but i dont think his junk science is going to increase the likelihood a woman will want a C-section over a vaginal birth. a lot of us “progressive” Dems actually did think of John Edwards as a blood sucking lawyer who capitalized on junk science. Thats why it was good to see him drop out.

The problem w/ McCain’s comments is that they pertain to an active area of public health where we are trying to get parents over an unfounded fear of vaccines. and he is just making it harder. Edwards is indeed an idiot but i dont think his junk science is going to increase the likelihood a woman will want a C-section over a vaginal birth.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-55185 Catron Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:12:13 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-55185 <em>Republicans/McCain need to STFU about things like autism.</em> I'm inclined to agree. I wish all politicians would stop yakking about medical issues (including stem cell research) about which they haven't learned the facts. I also wish our friends on the Left would stop applying a double standard based on the party of the politician. Republicans/McCain need to STFU about things like autism.

I’m inclined to agree. I wish all politicians would stop yakking about medical issues (including stem cell research) about which they haven’t learned the facts.

I also wish our friends on the Left would stop applying a double standard based on the party of the politician.

]]> By: Nurse K http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-55168 Nurse K Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:52:36 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-55168 Republicans/McCain need to STFU about things like autism because it will alienate people like me who are Republicans due to the propensity of Republicans to reduce/not raise taxes, maintain a free-market economy, and kill bad guys. People like me may just not vote at all. As I've said, I'm not voting for anyone this election, only against. Republicans/McCain need to STFU about things like autism because it will alienate people like me who are Republicans due to the propensity of Republicans to reduce/not raise taxes, maintain a free-market economy, and kill bad guys.

People like me may just not vote at all. As I’ve said, I’m not voting for anyone this election, only against.

]]> By: Joe C. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54335 Joe C. Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:01:56 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54335 "Are you referring to the scare quotes I put around words like 'progressive'?" Aye. So-called progressives would work just fine. “Are you referring to the scare quotes I put around words like ‘progressive’?”

Aye. So-called progressives would work just fine.

]]> By: Stuart Browning http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54280 Stuart Browning Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:01:32 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54280 It's hard to believe that someone having a website explicitly advocating single-payer, socialized medicine would have no idea about John Edward's past use of junk science - considering that Mr. Edward's platform contained the most left-leaning health care proposals of the top three democratic contenders. Actually ... come to think of it ... it's not that hard to believe. It’s hard to believe that someone having a website explicitly advocating single-payer, socialized medicine would have no idea about John Edward’s past use of junk science - considering that Mr. Edward’s platform contained the most left-leaning health care proposals of the top three democratic contenders.

Actually … come to think of it … it’s not that hard to believe.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54183 Catron Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:42:10 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54183 <em>Stop it with the gratuitous quotations.</em> I'm glad you enjoy the blog, Joe. If you could be a little more specific with regard to "gratuitous quotations," I'd be much obliged. Are you referring to the scare quotes I put around words like "progressive"? Stop it with the gratuitous quotations.

I’m glad you enjoy the blog, Joe.

If you could be a little more specific with regard to “gratuitous quotations,” I’d be much obliged.

Are you referring to the scare quotes I put around words like “progressive”?

]]> By: Joe C. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54153 Joe C. Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:17:08 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54153 David, you have a great blog. I read it most days. However, you must stop it with the gratuitous quotations. No legitimate publication uses quotes in this fashion. There are plenty of devices that accomplish this same end. Use them. David, you have a great blog. I read it most days. However, you must stop it with the gratuitous quotations. No legitimate publication uses quotes in this fashion. There are plenty of devices that accomplish this same end. Use them.

]]> By: Rich http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54075 Rich Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:07 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54075 "Edwards’ cases were subject to cross examination and appellate review. If the science was bad, it was generally accepted at the time, or he couldn’t have won the cases." True, if a consensus among twelve non-scientists constitutes "generally accepted." I guess the appeals court reviewed all the science and made determinations on it as well? I must be misinformed about the role of the appellate court. Thanks for the early morning chuckle. “Edwards’ cases were subject to cross examination and appellate review. If the science was bad, it was generally accepted at the time, or he couldn’t have won the cases.”

True, if a consensus among twelve non-scientists constitutes “generally accepted.”

I guess the appeals court reviewed all the science and made determinations on it as well? I must be misinformed about the role of the appellate court.

Thanks for the early morning chuckle.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54060 Catron Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:33:01 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-54060 <em>I am fully responsible for knowing every scientific-related political fact that I missed coming of age.</em> You have a choice: You can (1) mindlessly parrot the latest meme about McCain (or Bush or whomever) without learning the political context or (2) you can become a serious person. <em>I’m sorry I’ve been busy learning how to become a doctor.</em> LOL … Stop it … You’re killing me! I am fully responsible for knowing every scientific-related political fact that I missed coming of age.

You have a choice: You can (1) mindlessly parrot the latest meme about McCain (or Bush or whomever) without learning the political context or (2) you can become a serious person.

I’m sorry I’ve been busy learning how to become a doctor.

LOL … Stop it … You’re killing me!

]]> By: Graham http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-53853 Graham Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:12:11 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/04/mccain-vaccines-the-anti-science-meme/#comment-53853 <b>Sorry. Relative youth doesn’t get you a free pass for being uniformed.</b> I absolutely agree. I am fully responsible for knowing every scientific-related political fact that I missed coming of age. My bad! <b>There’s a way around this problem. It’s called “reading.�</b> Again, a snarky non-response! Let's play "Come up with who can find more facts the other person may or may not have written a blog article about!" Yippee! (I'm sorry I've been busy learning how to become a doctor. You'll have to excuse my decisions to learn about managing an airway over posting on my blog and following every Democrat. I'm not a health policy wonk, see, I just play one online!) Sorry. Relative youth doesn’t get you a free pass for being uniformed.

I absolutely agree. I am fully responsible for knowing every scientific-related political fact that I missed coming of age. My bad!

There’s a way around this problem. It’s called “reading.�

Again, a snarky non-response! Let’s play “Come up with who can find more facts the other person may or may not have written a blog article about!” Yippee!

(I’m sorry I’ve been busy learning how to become a doctor. You’ll have to excuse my decisions to learn about managing an airway over posting on my blog and following every Democrat. I’m not a health policy wonk, see, I just play one online!)

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