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	<title>Comments on: ROMNEYCARE WRECKS HOSPITAL SYSTEM</title>
	<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/</link>
	<description>Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marc Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-68405</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-68405</guid>
		<description>'No worries, just send everybody to India! Med Care Cheep!'

I'm surprised Catron allowed this - it exposes just how overpriced US medicine is. 

'Is it too much to actually read the above post or the Boston Globe original article?'

I read it all - as I said above, others think that the Alliance is poorly managed. Have a look at the link below, which is about a similar group that anticipated change. Also consider that Boston has some of the highest priced medicine in the world and wonder whether docs should perhaps earn less. And the head of the Cambridge Alliance makes about $630,000 a year.  

http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x1775733049

'But Boston Medical Center, which received much of the same funding for uninsured patients as the Cambridge Health Alliance before last year’s health insurance reform, isn’t reporting similar financial problems.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;No worries, just send everybody to India! Med Care Cheep!&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised Catron allowed this - it exposes just how overpriced US medicine is. </p>
<p>&#8216;Is it too much to actually read the above post or the Boston Globe original article?&#8217;</p>
<p>I read it all - as I said above, others think that the Alliance is poorly managed. Have a look at the link below, which is about a similar group that anticipated change. Also consider that Boston has some of the highest priced medicine in the world and wonder whether docs should perhaps earn less. And the head of the Cambridge Alliance makes about $630,000 a year.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x1775733049" rel="nofollow">http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x1775733049</a></p>
<p>&#8216;But Boston Medical Center, which received much of the same funding for uninsured patients as the Cambridge Health Alliance before last year’s health insurance reform, isn’t reporting similar financial problems.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: BobMan</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-68319</link>
		<dc:creator>BobMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-68319</guid>
		<description>No worries, just send everybody to India!  Med Care Cheep!

See:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_12/b4076036777780.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, just send everybody to India!  Med Care Cheep!</p>
<p>See:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_12/b4076036777780.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_12/b4076036777780.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: SmartDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67634</link>
		<dc:creator>SmartDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67634</guid>
		<description>Is it too much to actually read the above post or the Boston Globe original article?  To say "No its not" to the developing severe medical services contriction in Massachusetts is simply an absolute denial of reality.

From the very beginning of the Globe report: 

"Cambridge Health Alliance, a key part of the Boston area's healthcare network, is facing a potentially "catastrophic" loss this year and is looking to eliminate up to 300 jobs, or about 9 percent of its workforce, in an effort to stabilize finances.

The alliance, which includes Cambridge Hospital, Somerville Hospital, and Whidden Hospital in Everett, says it is being hit hard by the state's new healthcare reform law, which has left it responsible for providing free care for those without insurance while reducing the hospitals' compensation for such services."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too much to actually read the above post or the Boston Globe original article?  To say &#8220;No its not&#8221; to the developing severe medical services contriction in Massachusetts is simply an absolute denial of reality.</p>
<p>From the very beginning of the Globe report: </p>
<p>&#8220;Cambridge Health Alliance, a key part of the Boston area&#8217;s healthcare network, is facing a potentially &#8220;catastrophic&#8221; loss this year and is looking to eliminate up to 300 jobs, or about 9 percent of its workforce, in an effort to stabilize finances.</p>
<p>The alliance, which includes Cambridge Hospital, Somerville Hospital, and Whidden Hospital in Everett, says it is being hit hard by the state&#8217;s new healthcare reform law, which has left it responsible for providing free care for those without insurance while reducing the hospitals&#8217; compensation for such services.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67484</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67484</guid>
		<description>'And their liberty is trampled as a choice they DID have before is removed - the choice NOT to have a plan.'

That's a grown up society for you. 

'Massachusetts is going to see a vast reduction in hospital services available every year, for many years to come.'

No, it's not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;And their liberty is trampled as a choice they DID have before is removed - the choice NOT to have a plan.&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a grown up society for you. </p>
<p>&#8216;Massachusetts is going to see a vast reduction in hospital services available every year, for many years to come.&#8217;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Sodaro MD</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67112</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Sodaro MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67112</guid>
		<description>Massachusetts is going to see a vast reduction in hospital services available every year, for many years to come.  Many health care workers are going to lose their jobs.  All that "universal" coverage will be meaningless as there will be no treatment will be there when it is needed.

I call this the "Ontario-ization" of Massachusetts.  "Universal coverage" with much of the population with no PCPs. Doctor fees set less than Medicaid. No beds at the greatly shrunk hospitals. Third rate care even if you get admitted by greatly shrunk staff.  Old out-of-date equipment.  No options if you are desparately sick. No options.  No choice.  Passive aggressive bureaucratized second rate doctors who don't give a darn.

This is the antithesis of a free market solution.  Or perhaps the usual Orwellian definition of free market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massachusetts is going to see a vast reduction in hospital services available every year, for many years to come.  Many health care workers are going to lose their jobs.  All that &#8220;universal&#8221; coverage will be meaningless as there will be no treatment will be there when it is needed.</p>
<p>I call this the &#8220;Ontario-ization&#8221; of Massachusetts.  &#8220;Universal coverage&#8221; with much of the population with no PCPs. Doctor fees set less than Medicaid. No beds at the greatly shrunk hospitals. Third rate care even if you get admitted by greatly shrunk staff.  Old out-of-date equipment.  No options if you are desparately sick. No options.  No choice.  Passive aggressive bureaucratized second rate doctors who don&#8217;t give a darn.</p>
<p>This is the antithesis of a free market solution.  Or perhaps the usual Orwellian definition of free market.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67073</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-67073</guid>
		<description>"People in Mass now have a wide choice not available before."

And their liberty is trampled as a choice they DID have before is removed - the choice NOT to have a plan.

Once people are FORCED to have a plan, then they can be forced to do anything to abide by the rules of the plan, e.g. quit smoking or you will not have a plan. No plan - pay the penalty. Ahhh - the land of the free...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People in Mass now have a wide choice not available before.&#8221;</p>
<p>And their liberty is trampled as a choice they DID have before is removed - the choice NOT to have a plan.</p>
<p>Once people are FORCED to have a plan, then they can be forced to do anything to abide by the rules of the plan, e.g. quit smoking or you will not have a plan. No plan - pay the penalty. Ahhh - the land of the free&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66898</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66898</guid>
		<description>Goodness me - do you even agree with accounting rules for public companies?

As for Mass, surely the availability of more lower cost plans is at least on the way to the consumer choice you espouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness me - do you even agree with accounting rules for public companies?</p>
<p>As for Mass, surely the availability of more lower cost plans is at least on the way to the consumer choice you espouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Catron</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66468</link>
		<dc:creator>Catron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66468</guid>
		<description>"Would you have preferred that your government hadn’t intervened in Bear Stearns and interest rates?"

Yes.

"I would have thought you free market junkies would be applauding the Mass reform."

Even you don't believe this silly statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would you have preferred that your government hadn’t intervened in Bear Stearns and interest rates?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would have thought you free market junkies would be applauding the Mass reform.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even you don&#8217;t believe this silly statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66248</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-66248</guid>
		<description>I would have thought you free market junkies would be applauding the Mass reform - it is leading on consumer led choice of low cost plans. People in Mass now have a wide choice not available before. (And as a mandate - not a national/state insurance - system no one could expect it to offer universal coverage from day one.) So it looks to me like government intervention for consumer choice with a backstop for the poor.  As for the uninsured, the figure in Mass has dropped hugely - by about 75% so far. 

And here a question for Catron - would you have preferred that your government hadn't intervened in Bear Stearns and interest rates? Isn't this meddling with the free market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought you free market junkies would be applauding the Mass reform - it is leading on consumer led choice of low cost plans. People in Mass now have a wide choice not available before. (And as a mandate - not a national/state insurance - system no one could expect it to offer universal coverage from day one.) So it looks to me like government intervention for consumer choice with a backstop for the poor.  As for the uninsured, the figure in Mass has dropped hugely - by about 75% so far. </p>
<p>And here a question for Catron - would you have preferred that your government hadn&#8217;t intervened in Bear Stearns and interest rates? Isn&#8217;t this meddling with the free market?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Sodaro MD</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-65970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Sodaro MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/03/18/romneycare-wrecks-hospital-system/#comment-65970</guid>
		<description>The unanswered question is: "Who the heck are these uninsured?"

I suspect that they are illegal aliens, students, out of state transients coming for "free care," and people who choose NOT to be insured.

Whoever these people are, there are a huge number of them and they use a lot of health care.

The OTHER issue is that obviously hospital reimbursements have been set penuriously low. 

And so the socialization of Massachusetts begins, with a vast constriction in services available. Welcome to (medical) hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unanswered question is: &#8220;Who the heck are these uninsured?&#8221;</p>
<p>I suspect that they are illegal aliens, students, out of state transients coming for &#8220;free care,&#8221; and people who choose NOT to be insured.</p>
<p>Whoever these people are, there are a huge number of them and they use a lot of health care.</p>
<p>The OTHER issue is that obviously hospital reimbursements have been set penuriously low. </p>
<p>And so the socialization of Massachusetts begins, with a vast constriction in services available. Welcome to (medical) hell.</p>
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