Comments on: PAYING FAT PEOPLE TO WALK? http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:59:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-378869 Marc Brown Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:43:39 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-378869 'It’s seriously becoming amusing how deliberately misinformed you are about things like this.' Huh? There are thousands of health promotion projects in the US (eg a federal project is Steps to a Healthier US), many aimed at tackling obesity, and indeed some include financial incentives of some sort, not least from your health insurers, but also in food stamp programmes. I'm amazed that an American - of all people - would find it odd that people aren't motivated by money. ‘It’s seriously becoming amusing how deliberately misinformed you are about things like this.’

Huh? There are thousands of health promotion projects in the US (eg a federal project is Steps to a Healthier US), many aimed at tackling obesity, and indeed some include financial incentives of some sort, not least from your health insurers, but also in food stamp programmes. I’m amazed that an American - of all people - would find it odd that people aren’t motivated by money.

]]> By: Joseph C. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-378784 Joseph C. Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:11:24 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-378784 Marc, They're rewarding fatties with food? Great idea! Marc,

They’re rewarding fatties with food? Great idea!

]]> By: Paul http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-377689 Paul Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:50 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-377689 Marc, I've never heard of anything like this in the States, and it's seriously becoming amusing how deliberately misinformed you are about things like this. Marc, I’ve never heard of anything like this in the States, and it’s seriously becoming amusing how deliberately misinformed you are about things like this.

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-377204 Marc Brown Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:10:39 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-377204 Sorry, but your responses are inadequate. We're in real danger - the US more so - of turning out a generation of children who will live less long than their parents. And your response is .... do nothing and watch hospital bills soar. If you actually read about these schemes, no one is 'giving them money' as such, but vouchers for the gym and for healthy foods. I'm sure there are similar schemes in the US, as many of the UK's health promotion projects are based on American ones. Sorry, but your responses are inadequate. We’re in real danger - the US more so - of turning out a generation of children who will live less long than their parents. And your response is …. do nothing and watch hospital bills soar. If you actually read about these schemes, no one is ‘giving them money’ as such, but vouchers for the gym and for healthy foods. I’m sure there are similar schemes in the US, as many of the UK’s health promotion projects are based on American ones.

]]> By: Brian G http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376270 Brian G Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:09:45 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376270 So these rotund individuals are going to be paid to walk. So, how is this going to be verified? Are the local Bobbies going to have to monitor this too? This idea sounds ripe for fraud. I hope there isn’t a McDonalds on the way or this program will be for naught. So these rotund individuals are going to be paid to walk. So, how is this going to be verified? Are the local Bobbies going to have to monitor this too? This idea sounds ripe for fraud. I hope there isn’t a McDonalds on the way or this program will be for naught.

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376260 Catron Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:55:15 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376260 "If we can show that say £10 million spent on them saves £100 million on treating obesity related disease." First, that's a huge "if." They certainly haven't produced an ROI analysis that passes the laugh test. Second, there is very little chance that such a program will actually reduce obesity in any significant way. So, while forcing cancer patients to do without needed medication, your brainless bureaucrats throw money away on this crap. It's stupidity gone to seed. “If we can show that say £10 million spent on them saves £100 million on treating obesity related disease.”

First, that’s a huge “if.” They certainly haven’t produced an ROI analysis that passes the laugh test.

Second, there is very little chance that such a program will actually reduce obesity in any significant way.

So, while forcing cancer patients to do without needed medication, your brainless bureaucrats throw money away on this crap.

It’s stupidity gone to seed.

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376119 Marc Brown Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:01:12 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/11/10/paying-fat-people-to-walk/#comment-376119 If we can show that say £10 million spent on them saves £100 million on treating obesity related disease who are you to say it's not money well spent? Ultimately, it's your emergency rooms that will be picking up the heart attack victims - so you'll be paying more. Do you think that's good business? And is there no role for any public health programmes whatsoever? If we can show that say £10 million spent on them saves £100 million on treating obesity related disease who are you to say it’s not money well spent?

Ultimately, it’s your emergency rooms that will be picking up the heart attack victims - so you’ll be paying more. Do you think that’s good business? And is there no role for any public health programmes whatsoever?

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