Comments on: OF DEATH PANELS AND STRAW MEN http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-440624 Marc Brown Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:34:48 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-440624 'It would be refreshing to hear the “progressivesâ€? just be honest for once: the debate is all about power and redistribution of wealth.' Indeed it is Stuart - good of you to come out in the open. As a 'regressive' yourself you want to maintain the gross inequalities that lead to the vast health and other differences between rich and poor. Progressives want to close the gap. Your response could hardly make it clearer that it is indeed about power and wealth and who gets what. ‘It would be refreshing to hear the “progressivesâ€? just be honest for once: the debate is all about power and redistribution of wealth.’

Indeed it is Stuart - good of you to come out in the open. As a ‘regressive’ yourself you want to maintain the gross inequalities that lead to the vast health and other differences between rich and poor. Progressives want to close the gap. Your response could hardly make it clearer that it is indeed about power and wealth and who gets what.

]]> By: Stuart Browning http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439483 Stuart Browning Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:36:29 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439483 It's funny to hear government health care advocates criticize conservatives/libertarians for not wanting to "actually improve healthcare". If you look at all the ludicrous claims made by "progressives" about our health care system from the absurd life expectancy and infant mortality arguments to the constant reference to the WHO rankings that place the US 37th. None of these have anything to do with actual healthcare. It would be refreshing to hear the "progressives" just be honest for once: the debate is all about power and redistribution of wealth. Nothing more. It’s funny to hear government health care advocates criticize conservatives/libertarians for not wanting to “actually improve healthcare”.

If you look at all the ludicrous claims made by “progressives” about our health care system from the absurd life expectancy and infant mortality arguments to the constant reference to the WHO rankings that place the US 37th. None of these have anything to do with actual healthcare.

It would be refreshing to hear the “progressives” just be honest for once: the debate is all about power and redistribution of wealth. Nothing more.

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439377 Marc Brown Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:01:57 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439377 If Catron were honest he'd admit that the endless stream of lies is nothing much to do with health at all but defending the big business interests of the health insurance industry and their cronies in profit making hospitals. If you look back through his blog there's virtually nothing about actually improving healthcare for ordinary Americans. So - what about it David? If Catron were honest he’d admit that the endless stream of lies is nothing much to do with health at all but defending the big business interests of the health insurance industry and their cronies in profit making hospitals. If you look back through his blog there’s virtually nothing about actually improving healthcare for ordinary Americans. So - what about it David?

]]> By: Charles Sarno http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439228 Charles Sarno Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:33:05 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/08/20/of-death-panels-and-straw-men/#comment-439228 More right wing BS. There are no death panels. Repeat--none at all. I read the link you posted to the Cato guy and then to the actual legislative proposal. There is some attempt in the legislation to reduce the cost curve and to provide the more cost effective care. This sounds prudent and fiscally conservative. But no death panels. Nor any talk of euthanasia or denial of care. And particularly none for Trig, since he is under 65. So stop lying please. Then "we might get a genuine debate from which actual reform could emanate." More right wing BS. There are no death panels. Repeat–none at all. I read the link you posted to the Cato guy and then to the actual legislative proposal. There is some attempt in the legislation to reduce the cost curve and to provide the more cost effective care. This sounds prudent and fiscally conservative. But no death panels. Nor any talk of euthanasia or denial of care. And particularly none for Trig, since he is under 65. So stop lying please. Then “we might get a genuine debate from which actual reform could emanate.”

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