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	<title>Comments on: AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ON MCCAUGHEY</title>
	<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/</link>
	<description>Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Catron</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448334</link>
		<dc:creator>Catron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448334</guid>
		<description>Er, Snertly, Jon Stewart is a comedian. 

And I notice that you also failed to provide any examples of debunked McCaughey claims.

I'm waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, Snertly, Jon Stewart is a comedian. </p>
<p>And I notice that you also failed to provide any examples of debunked McCaughey claims.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Snertly</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448331</link>
		<dc:creator>Snertly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448331</guid>
		<description>"Smith fails to provide examples of “debunked” claims"

Perhaps he expects the reader to already be familiar with the topic at hand, or to have seen the debate being critiqued.  Somebody break your google button?  But if you really needs some examples, you should search out Ms McCaughey's interview/debate with Jon Stewart.  Her side of the conversation devolves into making funny faces and elaborate shrugging.

But then, in a similar fashion, you provide no examples of the ad hominem attacks referred to in the headline.  So there's another topic for profitable googling for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Smith fails to provide examples of “debunked” claims&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps he expects the reader to already be familiar with the topic at hand, or to have seen the debate being critiqued.  Somebody break your google button?  But if you really needs some examples, you should search out Ms McCaughey&#8217;s interview/debate with Jon Stewart.  Her side of the conversation devolves into making funny faces and elaborate shrugging.</p>
<p>But then, in a similar fashion, you provide no examples of the ad hominem attacks referred to in the headline.  So there&#8217;s another topic for profitable googling for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care BS - THE &#8220;MCCAUGHEY KILLED HILLARYCARE&#8221; MYTH</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448319</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Care BS - THE &#8220;MCCAUGHEY KILLED HILLARYCARE&#8221; MYTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448319</guid>
		<description>[...] I wrote about the latest round of ad hominem attacks on Betsy McCaughey, but I didn&#8217;t have time to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I wrote about the latest round of ad hominem attacks on Betsy McCaughey, but I didn&#8217;t have time to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: lorelei</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448280</link>
		<dc:creator>lorelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448280</guid>
		<description>The assertion above may have been true in the 70s, 80s, and to some extent the 90s, but it is no longer true. Like higher education, health care costs have risen faster and higher than wages, and most middle class families cannot afford good health insurance unless they are part of a group plan; even then, the co-insurance and co-pays are much higher than they were in the past 30 years.

Affordability is a huge issue, especially now that wages are down, unemployment is up, and health insurance premiums are at an all-time high.

We need to be realistic about the costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assertion above may have been true in the 70s, 80s, and to some extent the 90s, but it is no longer true. Like higher education, health care costs have risen faster and higher than wages, and most middle class families cannot afford good health insurance unless they are part of a group plan; even then, the co-insurance and co-pays are much higher than they were in the past 30 years.</p>
<p>Affordability is a huge issue, especially now that wages are down, unemployment is up, and health insurance premiums are at an all-time high.</p>
<p>We need to be realistic about the costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448279</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448279</guid>
		<description>I love how you complain about "Ad Hominem" attacks on critics of proposed health care reforms, and in the first sentence refer to said reforms by the derogatory Obamacare. Classy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you complain about &#8220;Ad Hominem&#8221; attacks on critics of proposed health care reforms, and in the first sentence refer to said reforms by the derogatory Obamacare. Classy.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448278</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/10/07/ad-hominem-attacks-on-mccaughey/#comment-448278</guid>
		<description>I don't think "ad hominem" means what you think it means. 

No one is attacking McCaughey personally, they are attacking her partisanship and debunking her patently false claims. 

If someone answered Betsy's myths by calling her a sociopath and lying, two-bit, insurance industry shill, without debunking, that'd be ad hominem. 

Ms. McCaughey, or perhaps just her defenders, needs some thicker skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;ad hominem&#8221; means what you think it means. </p>
<p>No one is attacking McCaughey personally, they are attacking her partisanship and debunking her patently false claims. </p>
<p>If someone answered Betsy&#8217;s myths by calling her a sociopath and lying, two-bit, insurance industry shill, without debunking, that&#8217;d be ad hominem. </p>
<p>Ms. McCaughey, or perhaps just her defenders, needs some thicker skin.</p>
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