Comments on: FRENCH HEALTH CARE? JE PENSE PAS. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/ Cleaning the Augean Stables of the Health Care Debate Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:45:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: COLETTE WILD http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-459135 COLETTE WILD Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:41:58 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-459135 First, if you speak French, speak it right, Je _ne pense pas..voila. IN THE U.S.. THE DOCTORS CHARGE WAY TOO MUCH, AND THE MEDS PRICES ARE ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. I feel lucky because I found an excellent doctor, and, because I was raised in France, I eat proper food, and eat to live, but not live to eat., and exercise, of course. I know French health system is great, and have my whole family to talk about, even American friends, and my husband. This idea the system is ready to collapse... 40 years ago they were already talking about it! First, if you speak French, speak it right, Je _ne pense pas..voila. IN THE U.S.. THE DOCTORS CHARGE WAY TOO MUCH, AND THE MEDS PRICES ARE ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. I feel lucky because I found an excellent doctor, and, because I was raised in France, I eat proper food, and eat to live, but not live to eat., and exercise, of course. I know French health system is great, and have my whole family to talk about, even American friends, and my husband. This idea the system is ready to collapse… 40 years ago they were already talking about it!

]]> By: Catron http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-453639 Catron Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:01:03 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-453639 Well, Marc, I see you're still parroting the absurd "Gratzer was wrong meme." That controversy was as phony as a $3 dollar bill. Your side propped up a straw man, knocked it down, and declared victory. In reality, he was <a href="http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/11/01/stat-wars-giuliani-and-the-prostate-cancer-debate/" rel="nofollow">absolutely right</a>, and thus had no reason "admit" otherwise. And, if you choose not to believe Gratzer because he's part of the VWRC, then what about <a href="http://www.healthcarebs.com/2008/08/01/us-still-has-best-cancer-survival-rate/" rel="nofollow">Lancet</a>? Are they "wingnuts" as well? Well, Marc, I see you’re still parroting the absurd “Gratzer was wrong meme.” That controversy was as phony as a $3 dollar bill. Your side propped up a straw man, knocked it down, and declared victory.

In reality, he was absolutely right, and thus had no reason “admit” otherwise. And, if you choose not to believe Gratzer because he’s part of the VWRC, then what about Lancet? Are they “wingnuts” as well?

]]> By: Marc Brown http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-453602 Marc Brown Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:14:01 +0000 http://www.healthcarebs.com/2009/12/16/french-health-care-je-pense-pas/#comment-453602 Come on - you must be able to do better than this. The French 'crisis' story dates from 2004 and no, their healthcare hasn't collapsed. And you're again trotting out the completely wrong Gratzer/Giuliani mistakes on cancer survival. As you know, Gratzer didn't know what he was doing and admitted so, as those miscalculated figures have nothing to do with the real five year survival rates, which are much closer. I'm in Paris next week visiting the Curie Institute - tell you what, I'll report back if they are in a bad way. Come on - you must be able to do better than this. The French ‘crisis’ story dates from 2004 and no, their healthcare hasn’t collapsed. And you’re again trotting out the completely wrong Gratzer/Giuliani mistakes on cancer survival. As you know, Gratzer didn’t know what he was doing and admitted so, as those miscalculated figures have nothing to do with the real five year survival rates, which are much closer. I’m in Paris next week visiting the Curie Institute - tell you what, I’ll report back if they are in a bad way.

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